Showing posts with label prose poetry. Show all posts
Showing posts with label prose poetry. Show all posts

Saturday, January 31, 2009

On Prose Poems

In A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver writes this about prose poems:

"What you see on the page is a fairly short block of type--a paragraph or two, rarely more than a page. It looks like prose. Perhaps it has characters, perhaps not. Often, it is pure description. It usually does have the same sense of difference from worldly or sequential time that one feels in a poem. And it does certainly ask to be read with the same concentration, and allowance for the fanciful and experimental, that we give the poem.

"Because the prose poem is brief--or perhaps just because it is something other than a poem--it seems more often than not to have at its center a situation rather than a narrative. Nothing much happens, that is, except this: through particularly fresh and intense writing, something happens to the reader--one's felt response to the 'situation' of the prose poem grows fresh and intense also."


I wish I'd had Oliver's definition at hand during my thesis defense. The only question that I had trouble answering was from a prof who didn't like prose poems. All I could tell him was my process--that when line breaks feel stilted or unnatural, I write in prose. Or, on the other hand, when the ideas and images are coming too fast to worry about line breaks. Either way, the primary quality of prose poems (I think) is immediacy.

Which is why I had so much trouble with Michael Fried's prose poems in The Next Bend in the Road. Here's an excerpt from a poem called "The Wound":

"The following is based on a prose poem by Picasso's friend Max
Jacob. In the first decade of the twentieth century, a Japanese youth with
a talent for drawing, who had recently lost an adorable younger sister to an
obsure illness, left home to seek his artistic fortune in France."

Frankly, I don't see any similarities between Oliver's definition and what I just quoted here. I don't get it. (And in case you're wondering, it just goes on like that for another half a page.) It seems that paragraphs like these are what give critics the ability to say prose poems are not really poetry.

But then there's this (from "John Montiere answer to question three" by A. Van Jordan):

"I see my son pulled from between MacNolia's legs. I see my son's legs
kicking from between her legs. Blood paints the skin of the midwife's
hands and arms up to her elbows. Blood paints my son's legs up to his
waist; all i can see is his kicking. He is grounded, feet first. His
head emerges and he sings his song."

So different! The language isn't unusual, the description not overdone, and yet, I can clearly identify this as poetry, where I can't in the Fried example. And I'm certainly striving for something more like A. Van Jordan's prose than Fried's.

Tuesday, January 27, 2009

What I'm Reading #2/3 - The Lightning Round

I'm a bit busier than I'd expected this semester (isn't that always the case?) and this little project keeps getting bumped to the bottom of the list. I still think keeping an annotated bibliography is a good idea, I'm just not sure how good. So today, I'm setting a timer for 10 minutes. Whatever I can do in that amount of time, great. Here goes:

For Class:

Fried, Michael. The Next Bend in the Road. University of Chicago Press, 2004.

Fried is a poet and an art historian, and (as expected) many of his poems are ekphrastic. While I think these poems do what they set out to do, it's not a project I'm terribly interested in pursuing. I do wonder, though, how Fried defines "prose poem," as many of his read more like museum plaques than poems.

Kleinzahler, August. The Strange Hours Travelers Keep. Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2003.

If you followed my link the other day, you would have found Kleinzahler's interview at bookslut. I linked it because I think it's amusing, but also because his irreverence is one of my favorite qualities of his poetry. I imagine Kleinzahler to be the middle-aged guy at the party who drinks too much scotch, hits on 25 year old women, and tells stories about French hookers while smoking a giant, nasty-smelling cigar. And usually, I love that guy (although yes, sometimes he can be creepy). At any rate, I liked the book.

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Uh-oh. Ten minutes are up. I don't get many points for that performance.

Here's what I didn't have time to mention:
David Shipler, The Working Poor (the primary text for my freshman comp classes)
Mary Oliver, A Poetry Handbook
Miscellaneous texts on rhetoric/rhetorical theory

Sunday, April 01, 2007

Have you noticed...

that it's been pretty quiet in blog land lately? Even I didn't find anything to ramble about for three whole days!

Last night, I had a dream about line breaks...and how perfect mine are. I wish my consciousness had that kind of self-confidence.

It's April. National Poetry Month. I haven't written my poem for today yet, but then, I've only been up an hour.

I think I've conquered the prose poem beast. I now have two prose poems, and I think they're good. And long. Way longer than anything I write with conventional line breaks. I usually lose steam after about 20 lines. I'm excited to send them out.

Speaking of sending things out, I got a rejection from Cimmaron Review yesterday. No ink. : (

Last Thursday, Joyce Dyer came to campus for a lecture/reading. She's one of the University of Akron Press's authors, and her memoir, Gum Dipped is about growing up in Akron. She spoke about Creative Non-Fiction--what it is, how to do it, the ethics of it, etc. Got me thinking. I've always wanted to write a memoir but I didn't think I had the "right" to. So I've shoved personal experience into bad fiction and into poems (that I hope aren't bad) instead of just writing personal essays. I'm starting to think I might just let myself try that memoir thing next.

JD also talked about how to deal with revealing family secrets/depicting family members in flattering or not so flattering ways, which made me think about my family poems and the way my family is depicted. In "The Orchard," I describe one of my sisters as "lurking." When she read it (from what I heard) she was a little miffed. I wonder what she's going to think when she reads the poems that are specifically about her? I said something to my mom on Friday about this fear of mine, and she said it was too bad for "them" if "they" didn't like what I write. I wonder if she'll still be saying that when she reads the poems that are about her? (Love ya, Mom!)

I'm reading RHINO 2007 this week. I'm loving it so far, especially the Editors' Prize winner "Etudes for El Paso and Spanish Guitar" by Akron's own Thomas Dukes. Dr. Dukes is such a smart, funny person and this poem gives me goose bumps. He's reading at Mona's Open Mic this month and I cannot wait!

Speaking of readings, Northeast Ohio seems to be quite the touring spot. Joyce Dyer last week, Mary and Craig on Good Friday, Jimmy Santiago Baca on the 10th. I'm sure there's more that I'm not thinking of off the top of my head. Oh, duh! Upstart Crows Open Mic on Thursday and my own reading on the 13th with several other local "emerging" poets (I have emerging in quotes because it feels really pretentious to call myself one). It's a good thing I don't have a social life, otherwise there might be some conflicts with all these readings.

Well, now that I've been blogging for 30 minutes, I am going to go find something to eat and finish re-reading Becoming the Villainess for class next Saturday.

Tuesday, March 27, 2007

To prose or not to prose

I'm working on this poem that I want to be a prose poem, but I think it's asking for line breaks. I'm kind of sad about it. Maybe I'm just not meant to write prose poems. Or maybe I just don't understand what a prose poem is. I've been reading and rereading Simone's "Orange Girls" and Mary's "Milfoil & Afterthought." I need to find some more. It seems like they (prose poems) are everywhere until I'm actually wanting to read them, and then I can't find them anywhere.

Also, I'm struggling with the lies...I mean, the fictionalizing of personal experience. Trying to not be tied to "but that's how it happened." In this particular poem/story/memory, the truth of it is as bizarre as anything I could make up, but I still don't want to get stuck in reality or chronology, yet when I throw in something purely fictional, I feel like it doesn't fit. I wonder if I will ever be able to break away from "truth" in my poems.