Showing posts with label A. Van Jordan. Show all posts
Showing posts with label A. Van Jordan. Show all posts

Saturday, January 31, 2009

On Prose Poems

In A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver writes this about prose poems:

"What you see on the page is a fairly short block of type--a paragraph or two, rarely more than a page. It looks like prose. Perhaps it has characters, perhaps not. Often, it is pure description. It usually does have the same sense of difference from worldly or sequential time that one feels in a poem. And it does certainly ask to be read with the same concentration, and allowance for the fanciful and experimental, that we give the poem.

"Because the prose poem is brief--or perhaps just because it is something other than a poem--it seems more often than not to have at its center a situation rather than a narrative. Nothing much happens, that is, except this: through particularly fresh and intense writing, something happens to the reader--one's felt response to the 'situation' of the prose poem grows fresh and intense also."


I wish I'd had Oliver's definition at hand during my thesis defense. The only question that I had trouble answering was from a prof who didn't like prose poems. All I could tell him was my process--that when line breaks feel stilted or unnatural, I write in prose. Or, on the other hand, when the ideas and images are coming too fast to worry about line breaks. Either way, the primary quality of prose poems (I think) is immediacy.

Which is why I had so much trouble with Michael Fried's prose poems in The Next Bend in the Road. Here's an excerpt from a poem called "The Wound":

"The following is based on a prose poem by Picasso's friend Max
Jacob. In the first decade of the twentieth century, a Japanese youth with
a talent for drawing, who had recently lost an adorable younger sister to an
obsure illness, left home to seek his artistic fortune in France."

Frankly, I don't see any similarities between Oliver's definition and what I just quoted here. I don't get it. (And in case you're wondering, it just goes on like that for another half a page.) It seems that paragraphs like these are what give critics the ability to say prose poems are not really poetry.

But then there's this (from "John Montiere answer to question three" by A. Van Jordan):

"I see my son pulled from between MacNolia's legs. I see my son's legs
kicking from between her legs. Blood paints the skin of the midwife's
hands and arms up to her elbows. Blood paints my son's legs up to his
waist; all i can see is his kicking. He is grounded, feet first. His
head emerges and he sings his song."

So different! The language isn't unusual, the description not overdone, and yet, I can clearly identify this as poetry, where I can't in the Fried example. And I'm certainly striving for something more like A. Van Jordan's prose than Fried's.

Thursday, April 17, 2008

Love Letter to A. Van Jordan

Dear Van,
Akron loves you.
Signed,
a fan
Photo courtesy of The Word Cage.

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Seriously, though. The reading on Tuesday was great, but talking with Van in workshop yesterday was awesome. I said I wasn't the question asking type, but after finally reading M-A-C-N-O-L-I-A, I had to ask him about sequencing. When I was ordering my thesis, I didn't want to put things in chronological order, but I couldn't see any other way. M-A-C-N-O-L-I-A is in reverse order--sort of; the sections are in reverse order, but within the sections, the poems don't necessarily move chronologically. Yet it all made perfect sense. Van said he had to ask what the central question of the book was and then he ordered the poems so they would move toward the moment of MacNolia's greatest potential. I've thought about the "central question" a lot with non-fiction thanks to Varley, but I didn't think of it that way with my thesis. Now I'm thinking about it...and I'm not even sure what the central question is. I have to go back.

It's crazy to say, but I think I was waiting for this conversation to finish my manuscript. I got so many ideas about new poems and a new order for In the Weeds that I can't wait to have the time to sit down with it and tear it apart. It's going to be so much fun!

I was just telling my students yesterday that revision is my favorite part of writing. Something to look forward to when the grading is finished. 2 weeks left in the semester (I don't have much going on during exam week) and then I can get back into poetry mode. Thank God!

By the way...the weather is freaking fantastic. Finally, it's spring! I'm totally wearing a skirt without tights today.

Wednesday, April 16, 2008

Gone, Baby, Gone (or I Used to Work Here, Part 3)

I think this will be the last post about poor old Carroll Hall. If I'm still in Akron when the landscaping is done, I'll give you an after.


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In other news, A. Van Jordan read yesterday and totally knocked my socks off. I'll be reading M-A-C-N-O-L-I-A during my break today so I can ask him smart questions during workshop. Okay, I'm really not the question asking type, but we'll see. At any rate, he gives a good reading. But at one point, I thought he said Nemesis was the Greek goddess of midgets, and I thought that was really weird. Then I realized he said Greek goddess of vengeance.

Before the reading, I hung out with Dawson and Little Eric. Always a good time. Doesn't Little look tough in that picture?


PS - I neglected to mention the wonderful photographer behind the camera. I was also hanging out with the one, the only, the Colt. Sorry Frank.

And some of my students came for extra credit. These guys play for our soccer team, which is apparently a pretty big deal.

And later, to deal with the stress of PhD decision day, I went to the bar. This isn't my Guiness, but it was poured so nicely I just had to take a picture.



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I got a super nice rejection from OU yesterday. I was waitlisted and everyone accepted the initial offers. Looks like I'm off to Chicago. (Unless something miraculous happens with Mystery School #2.)

Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Tax Day, Decision Day, A. Van Jordan Day

Busy, busy, busy.

Taxes are done. Thank goodness.

I'm supposed to decide where I'm getting my PhD today. Haven't heard anything from mystery schools 1 & 2, so I sent an unofficial email to UIC. We'll see if anything changes before EOB. EOB...haven't written that since I was administrative queen back in the day. (That's End of Business for those of you have had the good fortune of never working in a cubicle.)

Needless to say, I'm frazzled. Like I said before, I'm fairly certain I'll be at UIC, but I want to at least pretend there's a decision to make. Or have people fight over me. That would be nice.

Tonight, A. Van Jordan is reading at UA. Tomorrow, he's visiting Mary's class. I was going to buy M-A-C-N-O-L-I-A at the bookstore today, but they only have it in hard back. Hopefully they have paperback at the reading so I can get caught up before tomorrow night. I think I'm the only person in Akron who likes poetry and hasn't read this book. Shame on me.

Well, back to work. By the end of the week, we'll all know where I'm moving this summer. Betcha can't wait.